Kate Elliott ([info]kateelliott) wrote,
@ 2009-07-21 12:16:00
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"Good Enough"
[info]msagara writes here about the concept of "good enough," submitting work, and how writers talk about writing online in a way that can sometimes be misunderstood by non-writers.

A long time ago, in a comment thread, I indicated that the way authors talked about their own work, in the nearly context-less space provided by on-line venues, should be done with some caution, because many people who are not writers take it as a statement about the objective value of the work.

For this reason, for instance, writing "OMG I hate every word of this book it is all complete garbage" or "OMG if I didn't need to eat, I'd throw this book out the window" can have an unfortunate effect on readers who don't have to live with writers, or who are not also writers, because the long dark night of the novel is a months-long process with which all writers are familiar, and many readers are not.


She goes on to talk about how waiting to submit a manuscript "until you deem it perfect" would have meant she never submitted anything then or even now.

She also adds additional useful links here.


Anyway, in the context of the first part of her post (about how writers talk about writing), I wanted to throw out some definitions, which are only true FOR ME. Get that, FOR ME. But they may have resonance for many of you as well, and I hope will serve to help others understand some of what may go on in writers' brains at times.


Good enough:

As good as I can get it today (or this month or this year) either because
1) I am exhausted by working on it and need a break before I throw it off a bridge
2) I am at the limit of my current level of skill
3) I need to move on to another scene and/or chapter and will come back and fix it later
4) I need to set it aside for a time so that I can come back and look at it again later with fresher eyes
5) I believe it to be in decent (not perfect) shape and now need feedback in order to move forward with it
6) it does look good to me right now. How it will look tomorrow, next week, or next month is a different issue.



I hate this awful book, for it is a piece of rubbish:

I am in the middle of the novel. I do this every novel. Or almost every novel. It's part of the process of struggling with the text. When I don't do it, then I worry that by not hating the book it is a sign that the book must really be awful.



What was I thinking? Why do I even bother to write? Nothing I write is any good and I am a failure and a hack.

I have plunged into the soul-sucking abyss of self doubt. This happens occasionally (okay, okay, too often, but there you are). However, these episodes of self doubt, which spur me to stare at my text with despair and loathing, probably also are one of the reasons that and ways in which I improve as a writer (assuming I do improve, and I do think I have improved).



Anyway, seriously, I am likely going to be dead someday (unless there are some truly unexpected changes coming down the pike within the next fifty years either in medicine or the alien invasion department). For me--personally, as I can only speak for myself--that as much as I beat my head against the wall while writing, and struggling with the process, in the end and overall I am proud of my body of work. Is it perfect? Well, um, no. But it is always the best I can do at any given time, for which you may either feel sorry for me or impressed or, most likely, will understand that it is what it is.

You write what's in you to write with the tools you currently have at your disposal. The process includes doubt, exhaustion, exhilaration, head-desking, grim determination, glee, and everything in between. Kind of like life, now that I think of it.




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[info]sandrawickham
2009-07-21 10:52 pm UTC (link)
GREAT!!

Thanks for this post, much appreciated and very well timed for me right now :)

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:28 am UTC (link)
Thanks!

I hope to do a follow up.

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[info]karenmiller
2009-07-21 11:43 pm UTC (link)
I love you, Kate Elliott. *g*

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[info]desperance
2009-07-22 11:35 am UTC (link)
*joins the queue*

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:29 am UTC (link)
Too late for you, dude! That Miller woman got there first.

*g*

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:28 am UTC (link)
I am sure the feeling is mutual!

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[info]joncwriter
2009-07-22 12:34 am UTC (link)
Amen! :)

I'd say the recent critique I got from [info]dancinghorse really put all this into perspective for me...I have a bad habit of second-guessing myself a lot and all three points get me all frustrated. I guess I just need someone else now and again to confirm my fear that something was good but half-assed, and YES, I can do better than be mediocre. ;)

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:30 am UTC (link)
Oh, good, I'm glad the critique was useful, because she was sure helpful for me.

There's an entire post or ten that could be written about second guessing oneself . . . hmmm.

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[info]dmdomini
2009-07-22 12:38 am UTC (link)
When I don't do it, then I worry that by not hating the book it is a sign that the book must really be awful.

Yes. When I think something-or-other I write is good, my brain immediately turns into a Möbius strip of self-doubt. (IE, did my internal editor/critic die when I wasn't looking? Am I going to be doing the writing equivalent of jumping on the bar in polka-dotted granny panties and dancing with my shirt off...and not even realize people are fleeing in terror?)

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:31 am UTC (link)
I love that phrase, "the Mobius strip of self-doubt" -- so very vivid an image!!!

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[info]dichroic
2009-07-22 01:28 am UTC (link)
I think writing may be similar to parenting (not that I do either, though I am the beneficiary of both!) in that in both cases the work is so important that any responsible practitioner will always be trying to get it perfect, even while having to accept that in most cases they need to stop with good enough - and that "good enough" really *is* good enough because there is no such thing as perfect.

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:31 am UTC (link)
Yes, and actually you've made me decide to post a followup on "good enough" that takes a more positive look at the phrase and what it can mean.

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[info]davidbcoe
2009-07-22 01:40 am UTC (link)
Terrific post. I go through all of those stages with just about every book. And as you say, if I skip one of them, I worry that something is wrong. The panic, the self-doubt, the I-Can't-Do-This-Anymore-Today-I'll-Deal-With-It-Later feeling. It's all part of the creative process. As with sausages and laws and probably a whole host of things about which I know nothing at all, books are fine as a finished product, but the process of creating them is not fun to watch.

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:32 am UTC (link)
The ritual is its own ritual . . . weird how we get attached to it.

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[info]thedragonweaver
2009-07-22 04:01 am UTC (link)
I am an artist (as in, "this is something that defines me", not "this is how I make a living.") One of the hardest things to do is learning when to stop. I've actually gotten that pretty down, and the key is this: It's not that I couldn't, perhaps, make it better, it's that if I continue, I will almost certainly make it worse.

In spite of this view of things, I actually have a number of pieces that I like quite a lot and think I did a good job on. This, for example, a treated photo composite that took me all of ninety minutes at most* (it was for part of the set of Ruddigore.) It just fell into the sweet spot of "exactly the effect I was trying to achieve." For perspective, there's six other portraits with varying treatments that I don't like quite as well. But I learned long ago to just shut up when somebody compliments me on something I think is sub-optimal.

And sometimes, you just need to get the job done as good as you can.

*My sometimes day-job is working with Photoshop; for three years I did it daily under insane time-crunches. If you can put yourself in a position where your field of competence has crazy deadlines, I suggest you do so, because it does wonders for your speed AND your confidence.

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:34 am UTC (link)
I love his expression.

Yes, learning when to stop is hard. And learning when to say, 'you know, it's okay' (for whatever meaning of okay is needed at the time).

Also, the compliment thing. I once made muffins for a seminar because it was one of my fellow attendees birthday, and I apologized when I brought them out because they weren't PERFECT, and the birthday person kindly but firmly pointed out that the gesture was truly appreciated and kind and that I was undercutting it by apologizing for the "quality." That has stuck with me.

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[info]sfmarty
2009-07-22 05:28 am UTC (link)
Pet, pet, soothe, soothe.

I was brought up by an artist. I lived with what you are talking about every day.

As one of your fans, plod on, I will appreciate it.

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:35 am UTC (link)
Oh, I'm used to it now. As David Coe says, above, I'd be worried if I didn't go through this.

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[info]csinman
2009-07-22 09:31 am UTC (link)
I am in the middle of the novel. I do this every novel. Or almost every novel.

One day, when struggling with this very feeling, I noticed that I was at approximately the same place in the book as my last stalled project. So I divided the number of words I'd written by the number of words I expected to write--and got 62%. Curious, I began collecting statistics on all of my finished work (and all of the work I was currently stalled at).

I consistently hate my work between 60-65% of the way through it. Then it goes away and I magically love writing again! I now use this to gauge the validity of my writer's blocks. If I'm in trouble at 30%, which is unusual, I'm more worried about it than when it's 64%, which I know will iron itself out.

...I think I might be crazy, but so far it doesn't impede my ability to function in society, so I guess I'll let it slide. ;)

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:36 am UTC (link)
That's really funny that it's so consistent.

Yes, you may be crazy. But I think crazy people make good artists . . . best if we all let it slide!

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[info]desperance
2009-07-22 11:37 am UTC (link)
Yes, this. All of this, in order.

With the final resonating conclusion that it is a far, far better thing to leave behind a body of work that is not - that cannot ever be - perfect, than to leave nothing because nothing was ever good enough.

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:36 am UTC (link)
Yes, exactly.

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[info]nerinedorman
2009-07-22 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for this. I totally relate. One of the most difficult things is getting a brilliant idea while only 1/3 into a novel then having to hold off starting the new project until the first draft of the present is finished.

It's easy to start finding fault with the WIP and to fixate on the project that has yet to be started, pinning hopes on that.

I'm there right now and it's driving me bugs***.

And also, that phase while you're editing said MS for the nth time, you know the publisher liked it enough to offer a contract but you're looking at the words and thinking "WTF was I thinking when I wrote this?"

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:37 am UTC (link)

THere is something about the grass being greener on the other side . . .

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[info]faunaphile
2009-07-23 10:02 pm UTC (link)
I enjoy writing quite a bit but have hardly engaged in the last 10-15 years of my life due to my own perfectionistic streak and resultant lack of practice. Though writing fiction is obviously a world of difference from academic writing, doing a substantial amount of the latter over the last few years has not only improved my confidence but taught me the important lesson that there comes a time when you just have to cut your baby (be it a novel or a research paper) loose and deem it "the best you could muster and still release the damn thing".

It also amazes me that as much as you learn about "the process", no matter WHAT you're writing the old patterns still do their best to emerge. It's a never-ending struggle for sure. :)

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[info]kateelliott
2009-07-24 01:38 am UTC (link)
I think when we write it is our old patterns we're struggling against more than the words themselves.

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